0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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neuros666
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0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Build: 13864
Level: Basement is level... 4, I think?

In the cellar (1st open door, out of "bedroom") the lamp in the upper left corner does not cast a shadow, plus the flame appears over the player character.
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Hi neuros666,

Thanks for the bug report. Is it possible to take a screenshot of the room, so I know exactly what you are talking about? We have quite a few different basements in different nightmares.

Otherwise, can you describe what the objective of the level is and/or what enemies you fight?

Thanks for your help!
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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In "Lost Child" after falling through the basement ceiling:
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Wow, great catch - especially the missing shadow problem. That is really subtle!

It'll be fixed in the next build. Thank you so much for pointing it out!
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Here's another example: in "Final Descent", first room after waking up:

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The lamp marked "?" is the one I presume is the origin of the shadow circled in the same color, but the perspective leads me to expect the shadow to be cast at the location marked in yellow.

Am I going overboard with this? I should warn you that a lot of instances, and less obvious ones at that, caught my eye.

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NeuroS
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Due to a limitation of the way our faux 3D shadows in a 2D world work, lamps on the side of the world can't cast shadows. We basically raytrace the player as his 2D silhouette, so a light on the side would basically be casting against something infinitesimally thin and/or just plain wrong. Because of that, the light in the red is just supposed to not cast a shadow. There is a check box in the editor, but it looks like Joe had the wrong value.

It is fixed! Thanks for tracking those down.
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Would you still like to have perspective errors reported, if they're from a light source located behind the player?

Also, do you have level layouts, on which I could simply mark the location of the bugs I find?

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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Sure, I'd be interested in perspective errors! Unfortunately, I don't think we have very accurate maps for most of the levels.

Thank you so much for your help!
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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NOTE: Generally speaking, I considered every light source from a side wall an error, unless the lamp was located in a corner, near the back wall. Of course, I can't tell if the benefit of fixing them is worth the effort, or if I'll be the only one to notice (I recall your GDC speech about Retrograde; it was heart-wrenching).

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Bed1 :
- Extra light source from left wall
- Missing light source from lamp on far right of back wall
Bath :
- Extra light source from left wall
- Light source from window (intended?) is off-center
Hearth :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls
Library :
- Shadow from candle shows on pedestal as if on floor
Bed2 :
- Extra light source from right wall
Dining :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls
Kitchen :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls

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Bath1 :
- Extra light source from left wall
- Light source from window (intended?) is off-center
Bed2 :
- Two extra light sources from left wall (ignoring corner lamp)
Boy :
- Extra light source from left wall
Bath2 :
- Extra light source from right wall (mirror?)
Girl :
- Extra light source from right wall (ignoring corner lamp)
- Extra light source from left wall
Hall5 :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls
Office :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls (ignoring corner lamps)
Bath3 :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls (ignoring corner lamps)
- Light source from window (intended?) is off-center
Hall6 :
- Extra light source from right wall
Attic :
- Missing light source(s) from candles below hanging body(?)
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Re: 0.7 - [Minor, visual] Faulty lamp in basement cellar

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Bed1 :
- Missing light sources from middle and rightmost lamps
Boy :
- Extra light source from left wall
Play :
- Extra light source from right wall
Bed2 :
- (Same issues as Bed1)
Hall3 :
- Extra light source behind the closet
Girl1 :
- Extra light source from right wall
Bath2 :
- No light source from window (missing?)
- Extra light source from right wall
Hall6 :
- Extra light source from left wall
Bed3 :
- (Same issues as Bed1)
Hall7 :
- Extra light source behind every closet
Hall8 :
- Extra light sources from both left & right walls
Storage :
- Extra light source from right wall
Hall9 :
- Extra light source from right wall
Office :
- Extra light source from right wall
Bed4:
- (Same issues as Bed1)
Hall12 :
- Extra light source from left wall
- Missing light source at left of stairwell
Bed 5 :
- No light sources at all?
Cellar :
- Missing light source from rightgmost lamp (already reported)
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